The Mark Helm Interview by
Bill Klutho
The Galaxy is OK - The Minstrel Life and Domestic Bliss of
Mark Helm
It
was one more day living above a night club in Scandinavia
after one more night of playing cover tunes for overserved
patrons in another nondescript establishment. Mark Helm found
himself in a never-ending, meaningless relationship with the
love of this life: music. He could keep playing like this
forever or he could regroup and go home.
Mark
came home. But he still had music to get out of his system.
His plan was to use recordings hed made overseas supplemented
with some new recordings and give his friends a tape - a farewell
to the musical part of his life. Fortunately for us, those
tapes made it into the hands of Bruce Brodeen of Not Lame
Recordings. His journey is now documented on his solo debut,
Everythings OK (Not Lame NL061) - a brilliantly
diverse collection of harmonies, humor, horror and hope.
Fufkin
had a chance to talk with Mark about his life, influences
and his musical sojourn.
fufkin:
So tell us about the tape.
mh:
I wasnt planning on doing anything with that tape other
than giving copies to my friends. I had been disappointed
by record label rejection with my group radioblue a few times.
My life had spun out of control while I was living in Denmark.
I had just come home and was recovering and just putting things
back together again. I had a new job. And it wasnt that
I didnt want to do music anymore
I just didnt
want to be in the music business anymore. I was never, ever
going to put out my own CD, not that I have anything against
it. Some of my best friends put out their own stuff - and
they should because theyre brilliant. People like Kevin
Johnson, Last Train Home, Lu Bango. Thats one of the
great things about the technology these days
the ability
to record and release your own CD. But I was against doing
it myself because I didnt have enough cockiness anymore
after what we went through with radioblue - we almost got
signed, then everything fell apart. Also, Id been part
of a project with Jamie Blake on A&M Records where some
of my musical ideas and other work went uncredited. It was
too much when Jaime ended up on Beverly Hills 90210 playing
a couple of songs and I saw a skinny little 18-year old guitar-syncing
parts I should have been playing. . I mean, I wrote songs
with her and went into the studio to play partly because Id
been promised the guitarist slot in her touring band. That
didnt happen. Mostly because, by this time, I was over
30 and Jamie and her people didnt think that I fit the
image of her band. Anyway, her record came out and it was
pretty good. But A&M did nothing to promote it and it
just died.
Anyway,
I was just so jaded. I moved back to DC and had these tapes
that I wanted to play for some of my pop friends because I
was proud of it. I certainly wasnt going to give it
to any record companies. I didnt want to set myself
up for disappointment again. Then one day, I get a long email
that was signed Bruce Brodeen (head of Not Lame
Records). It was really thoughtful and kind. And you know
what
honest to God, I thought it was a joke.
fufkin:
(slight laugh)
mh:
Its not really funny because I was really upset about
it. I thought, fuck you guys. I go through all
this shit to get back on my feet. I asked people not to make
any copies of the tape without me knowing about it only to
turn around and find out one of my friends had made copies
of my music, put a cover on it and sent it out to people.
Then I find out it had gone to this guy at Not Lame, who I
had a lot of respect for, but I never imagined anything would
come out of it. And then I get an email that is just so over
the top, I was positive it was a joke. I remember distinctly
reading it and being so upset - almost to the point of tears
and saying to myself, this is fucking cruel. So
I call Eric Sorensen up and basically tell him this
has gone too far. I really appreciate you guys trying to help
me out but I really didnt want anyone to get a hold
of this. And Eric said, What are you talking about?
And I said I had gotten an email from someone claiming to
be Bruce Brodeen. Eric said, oh, no no. That was really
him! I couldnt believe it. No one had ever said
stuff like that about my music, especially in writing. For
the first time in my life, he (Bruce) made me feel like a
legitimate artist. (Below is a copy of the email)
i'm
not sure what you purpose of creating this music was, at the
time, but i'm certain of one thing: it's about as pure a distillation
of a soul, as i've heard. listening to the songs, it felt
like i was violating a private, long locked door to someone's
most innermost fears and self-loathing. the music is so bare,
so genuinely unpretentious and devoid of commercial concerns
or inclination that any one not moved by it must be soul-less.
it hurts, it lifts up, it renews, it goes thru some sort of
life cycle that you dare not wish on any loved one. no record
has ever quite reminded me of big star's "sister lovers'
because that record has all of the same qualities as much
of your material.... its dark, intensely personal, not
slotting itself comfortably into anything that preceded it,
symbolically in disarray as it mirrors a life trying to find
a harbor, the music of Big Stars Sister Lovers
and much of the songs on the tape of you sent to me, are Sister
Lovers in truest sense of connection of those two words.
mh:
I honestly didnt think it was a cruel joke, I thought
it was someone busting my chops. I didnt think they
were trying to hurt me but thats how I perceived it.
I can remember getting to the end of the email and feeling
like somebody kicked me in the chest
I actually started
to cry. You gotta remember-at this point in my life, Im
totally emotionally exhausted. I was sitting in my computer
room saying, why would anyone be so mean? I guess
I just couldnt believe that anyone would like my music
THAT much and would have gotten what I was trying to do. It
just hadnt ever happened. Id been doing it for
so long and it had never registered with anyone and for someone
like Bruce to get it
I didnt believe it.
Of
course, then it turned out to be true. And to this day, if
Im ever feeling bad, I just pick up the phone and call
Bruce. I probably wouldnt have continuing pursuing music
if it hadnt been for the encouragement of Bruce Brodeen.
fufkin:
How has the reaction been to the record?
mh:
I was hearing silence from the pop thing that Not Lame is
the center of, but Bruce warned me not to expect the typical
jangly pop people to necessarily like my record. He said theyd
listen to it because its on the label and he was hoping
they would get it but it might not happen. He
basically cautioned me not to get too excited. Believe it
or not, the only review the record has received so far was
in the Washington Post from a notoriously tough critic named
Mark Jenkins. He said, the record cohered into an elegant
whole. But lets face it, this record, as far as
a Not Lame record is concerned, has been ignored, almost snubbed.
But some people I really respect, like Bill Lloyd and Doug
Powell, liked the record and that means more to me.
(Editors note: Doug Powell said, I have to rate
Everything's OK as my favorite Not Lame CD of 2000.
Pop music with a deeply personal foundation that gives it
substance not easily found in the genre in general. Very inventive
arrangements with lots of great sonic 'gifts' waiting to surprise
the listener.)
The musicians I respect that have heard the record seem to
like it.
fufkin:
Your songwriting has obviously been influenced by a wide variety
of artists?
mh:
Yesterday: Beatles, Beach Boys, Neil Young, Big Star, Eagles,
Poco, and the list goes on. Today: Mark Eitzel, with and without
the American Music Club, Wilco, Grant Lee Phillips, Ben Folds,
Jeff Tweedy, Lloyd Cole.
fufkin:
How would you describe songwriting?
mh:
Songwriting is storytelling. And the story Im most interested
in is the story of self in relationship to the other. Thats
a complicated way of saying I dig love songs! Seriously, I
do think the best artists are writing about themselves and
the people and things they care about-- not about ideas or
concepts or abstractions. I always write from my own experience,
concrete things about me and my life. And its not just
because Im only interested in me. Writing can be a way
to use ego without being egotistical-to sublimate the ego
and to project it out, to force personality and feeling into
something universal that everyone can understand. The singer-songwriter
genre gets a lot of shit for navel gazing because of people
from Dan Fogelberg to Jewel. But the best writers paint a
picture of the navel that others can look at and say, Hey,
that could be MY navel! I try to take a lead from that
approach and to also be mindful of my influences and use what
they have taught me. A lot of people-myself included-are criticized
for being too derivative. But these days, most of the great
songwriters take the best of the best of the people that have
influenced them and use it. T.S Eliot said, Amateurs
borrow, Artists steal. So, whether its Brian Wilson
or Marvin Gaye or Alex Chilton or Neil Young, you take it
and then do your best to make your own statement. The Beatles
wouldnt have ever made A Hard Days Night
if they hadnt heard Chuck Berry. And no one gave them
shit for doing that. Its one thing to do a song thats
deeply influenced by the Beatles or Beach Boys, but there
is a big difference between aping your influences
and making your influence your own. I would like to think
there is a difference in what Ive done.
fufkin:
Whats next?
mh:
Well, Ive got a track Bill Lloyd is helping me with
for the ELO tribute disc thats coming out in the fall.
Im also in the process of building a studio in my basement.
For OK, I gave Bruce about 40 songs of which only
16 made the disc. Since then, Ive written another 10
or 15 songs. And Im starting to do some things with
Lu Bango, Franks brother and an exceptionally talented
writer (pick up his solo debut the little bang theory
from NL). Lu and I are playing a few club dates and Im
hoping to have a Mark Helm/Lu Bango track on the next disc.
The next record should be more organic and of a whole. Ill
try to not wait five years before I get it finished.
fufkin:
Since the release of OK, you and your wife Jenni have
an addition to your family, Cooper. How is fatherhood?
mh:
Fatherhood? Its everything I thought it would be only
about ten times better. I was a little nervous
would
I be good at it? I also thought it might be difficult but
I found its magical. This kid is gorgeous and he seems
to bring out the best in me. Jenni has been wonderful and
shes made it really easy for me. Cooper is a family
name from Jennis side and the Lee is for James Lee,
my best friend and former band mate in radioblue. So welcome
Cooper Lee Helm.
For
mp3 clips, video and to purchase Everything's OK, click
the cover below or click
here

For a complete description of the songs and lyrics on Everything's
OK, check Marks web site at www.markhelm.net.
For more about Marks day job at Friends of the Earth,
check http://www.foe.org.
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